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Symbian in Motion: Nokia E71 - The Letdown

  • Candyman · 1 year ago
    Fo the keyboard shot.....are you sure you focused the picture before snapping it?? (Pressing T will focus the shot). It doesn't look like it ever focused.
  • Abul · 1 year ago
    Thanx replaced with a focused version still the difference in quality is easily noticeable.
  • Resumes · 2 months ago
    MAcbook would be great but it sure do cost a lot of money
  • onlife · 1 year ago
    There should be a Blackberry Connect client available for the E71, so where's the problem?
  • Abul · 1 year ago
    So far from what I've read, BB Connect isn't officially on the Nokia E71. Rumour has it it's been discontinued by Nokia. not sure how much of that is true myself. If it is true, then that's a big shoot yourself in the foot move by Nokia. But as I say it's not an official announcement and the fact it doesn't come pre-loaded on the E71 and isn't listed as compatible on the Nokia website, may speak for itself.
  • Zach · 1 year ago
    Supposedly the BlackBerry agreement is done.

    --- Sent from my Nokia N95 8GB
  • Abul · 1 year ago
    That's positive. Surely get that sorted and have both m4e and bb connect preinstalled before releasing the product?
  • abhishta · 1 year ago
    that is good news indeed! BBConnect is the sole reason why I don't have an E71 in my hands right now.
    I agree with Abul here, MfE and BBConnect should have been pre-installed on the device.
  • Emre SUMENGEN · 1 year ago
    I believe you are _absolutely_ WRONG about your assumptions, both about the camera and the E-Series line requiring to become more isolated...

    1) The camera might not be competing with the N95 or other multimedia phones. But that doesn't mean it's not necessary. Who on earth can think that a businessman _never_ needs a camera, just for taking a quick snap? Does everyone with a camera phone need to have interest in becoming a celebrity within the photo-taking arena? Nope... I've been using the E61/E61i series for a long while and the lack of a camera (no matter what megapixels or autofocus) was the sole reason I switched between them. Everyone needs to take a quick (if not perfect) shot at something, sometime in his life.

    2) I actually don't get the E-series and N-series fanship. How can a thought evolve, saying that a businessman only needs emails on the go and nothing else? If that was the case, everyone would be carrying asus eee pcs with them, not a blackberry. It would be the main audience that differs between the product lines, if those lines are perfectly necessary. But it's really not nice to bump into a door when you want to get -just for example- chat app on your XXX$ phone, just because it's a "business focused" phone. Likewise, I really cannot understand why there's no QWERTY N-series phone? Doesn't a "multimedia" user send/receive mail? Shouldn't the flagship "multimedia _computer_" of a brand have an alternative about the keypad? I really think a horizontal slider N95 would really really become much more success than models that only crop the features and change only the form-factor...

    Just my two cents...
  • Abul · 1 year ago
    I'm not saying the camera shouldn't be there full stop, but rather the spec for it doesn't do it justice. We can all do with a quick picture but my point is without a dedicated capture button the picture won't be a quick one, and the results are pretty poor and thus make them useless IMO.

    Moving on with the issue of the convergence between N and E series: no business man I know (I work in the insurance and finance sector) would even consider walking around with an eeepc purely there is no need for it. They'd all together have a 12" light weight laptop. As you said "a business man on the go" - I wasn't referring to that I'm writing on the experience from business men in the office who when out need access to their e-mails and nothing else, mainly because they want to carry minimal accessories and a eeepc isn't going to cut it.

    Sure the N95 with a QWERTY slide down keypad would be ideal, I'll sign up for on of those now! My point being keep those innovative features on the N Series and not the E, change in business isn't done overnight, plans etc are put in place before the change takes effect. So if a company changes to M4E and the E71 is racking up huge bills and the functionality is in question, they will change it quickly, and not one device 100's of devices across the whole board. That's a lot of revenue lost!

    My main point is being Nokia needs to figure out what they're E Series is aiming at, if hey don't know, businesses aren't going to wait around for them to find out. As far as I see it, the E Series is an Enterprise device there is no room for judgement and experimentation, it needs to come out solid in what it aims to do and leave the experimenting to the N Series.
  • Emre SUMENGEN · 1 year ago
    "change in business isn't done overnight, plans etc are put in place before the change takes effect."
    I totally agree on that.

    But as you have said, a company should have tested it out (as the E71 is a very recently released device) with flaws and compliance with the company policy, _before_ deciding to take over the whole users... I firmly believe, the Mail for Exchange issue mentioned is just a glitch in software.

    It is intriguing to know such bugs exist and Nokia is expected to release better tested software, especially for a phone designed with business needs in mind. But, it's still a software glitch. Microsoft still releases software and release a major SP just in 2 weeks. That is sh*t, but it happens.

    By the way, I too would be in the line for an N95 like that. But it doesn't just make sense, why there would be a difference in phone series...

    Do you think, software or hardware for E-series phones are more seriously tested? Or, likewise, are N-series devices not-so-tested? If so, nobody should buy an N-series... Consumers are not meant to be Nokia's playground, IMHO.
  • Abul · 1 year ago
    From experience I can say that the E Series has more stable and crash less than the N Series. The E71 has only crashed once since I've had i and that was dude to me installing the Nokia chat client.

    if you take Vista to compare in this situation, many business have not upgraded to I why? because it was too buggy and not compatible with many things in initial release and to this day, a lot of companies won't risk using it, because f the reputation it has because of the initial buggy release.
  • Emre SUMENGEN · 1 year ago
    By the way,
    I'm VERY eager to get myself one of those shiny new E71s out there... I currently have a 6600, an E50, E61i and HP rw6815. I just believe the E71 will rule them all, by all aspects (but the touchscreen of the 6815 still thrills me).

    Just forgot to tell this :)
  • Abul · 1 year ago
    The E71 will replace al of those devices with ease. It's the second best handset Nokia have ever made IMO. The N82 being the best.
  • Kristian · 1 year ago
    I've got a E51 and I use an 2.5mm to 3.5mm adapter for my Koss portapro headphones (like this: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Hama-2-5mm-Stereo-3-5mm-Socket/dp/B00006J6IJ).

    It works great. When plugging in the adapter the phone senses that non-standard equipment is connected and asks whether it's a set of headphones or a connection to a sound system
  • Abul · 1 year ago
    Kristian, I was thinking about getting an adaptor, but then I thought, why do I need to get another add-on to simply do what I was going to do initially? It just seems baffling to me. I just wish Nokia could just create some really good in-ear headphones for their handsets, which can be used across their range without any trouble. Sony Ericsson do it with their walkman range, even tho they still stick with their propriety connection!
  • Petar · 1 year ago
    The Sennheiser CX300 headphones you mentioned have a 2.5 mm jack version. Go to http://www.sennheiser.com/sennheiser/home_en.ns... and look for "CX 300 2.5mm" towards the end of the page.

    Cheers!
  • Abul · 1 year ago
    The ones I have are 3.5mm and they don't fit into the E71. Maybe they make them in both sizes?
  • Joel · 1 year ago
    I owned E-series in the past, E71 is the best! Fast & elegant!
  • kozjegyzo · 1 year ago
    Thanks Abul for the "Letdown".
    I really don't think the camera is such a great issue. The aim here is businessmen, and of course they need to take a snap once in a while but that's prbably the least used function. More over if you look at it from a company side they would prefer not to have a camera all together. My collegue biught an E61 because it DID NOT have a camera, purely because we work in the media business and there are places we are not allowed in with a camera phone. This is becoming a very real issue when entering any companies more sensitive areas.
    MFE well I that I cant really comment about that because I use SEVEN and although it's beta it still works sweet.
    Since s60 is a great platform I think Nokia should concentrate on the hardware and the platform being as compatible as possible to 3rd party applications, the dev guys all over will take it from there. On this note Google and Android made the right step and will rule all :)
    I also have an adaptor to my headphones and it works great. I really don't care that I have to use one, because the original Nokia headsets suck. They used to have a full functioning remote control on the that was great. Now since they use a jack (great step because it's compatible) there is limited remote capability. I'm sure more functions could be implemented if they cared to do it...

    I really think that the E and N series dedication will fall away with having a touchscreen and everything that comes with that. NOKIA COME ON ALREADY WE NEED THAT TOUCHSCREEN AND MAKE IT BIG!!!
    Since the E and N both run the same platform (more or less) the only bid differences are the screen and size camera. Everything else can be added via software, who cares if it's not there from the box, just add the best 3rd party one and you're off! :)
  • Abul · 1 year ago
    To b honest, I don't think many business users will be interested in the 3rd party applications. Their main use of the 71 would be to sync up with M4E or BB Connect to have their e-mails on the go at simple reach. If it fail to do this, it won't be kept. 3rd party apps are aimed more at enthusiasts and techy related professionals who can appreciate them. A business s not going to rely on a 3rd party application to d their business with unless they are specifically hiring them to build something for their platform., and in most cases it will be based on JAVA as ts the most compatible platform for al handsets.
  • mike · 1 year ago
    where was this review two days ago when i was ordering it... dammit.
  • charliebrown · 1 year ago
    It's strange no one is pointing put its main issue, the so-called "hand effect": I mean the fact that the signal strength goes down very quickly when you hold it in your hand... you know... to use it!!!
  • Peter · 1 year ago
    Sennheiser CX300 is available with 2,5 mm Jack!

    Brgds
  • Appleson · 10 months ago
    Pretty retarded review. 12-year olds on youtube do better.
  • Rolly · 9 months ago
    blah blah blah... no one is perfect, no device is perfect, why don't you guys look at the price of E71 before airing those foolish complaints.
  • ewrww · 5 months ago
    FUCK
  • JoeAnne11 · 3 months ago
    In my opinion Nokia is by far the best phone company in the world. I love the phone models they released so far. And if we are talking about computers then I will definitely chose apple and their mcbooks. As soon as I will be able to buy those things, I will go and make an affordable Coventry insurance.
  • compare credit card processing · 2 months ago
    Awesome:)
  • Evisu Jeans · 1 week ago
    It is intriguing to know such bugs exist and Nokia is expected to release better tested software, especially for a phone designed with business needs in mind. But, it's still a software glitch. Microsoft still releases software and release a major SP just in 2 weeks. That is sh*t, but it happens.